[pptp-server] spam spam spam spam

[Joe Polcari]

Good info on SpamAssassin not withstanding,
The chatter about spam is generating as much mail as the spam.
My delete key works great and the list admin says he's doing something about it.

Nuff said?
Can we get back to the subject?


Andrew Kohlsmith wrote:

> > Nice thought in theory, but in practice it sucks.  The rate of false
> > positives will be very high.  Rather than bore everyone with the details,
> > there is a (somewhat long-winded) explaination about SpamAssassin here:
> > http://www.talkbiz.com/assassin.html
>
> As someone who uses SpamAssassin for a 4000-user dial-up ISP I can tell you
> that my rate of false positives is *very* low (on the order of less than one
> false positive per 20-25 days).  That URL you linked to is sensational crap
> at best, and outright fear-mongering and misleading at best.  He clearly does
> not  (nor does he appear to care to) understand how SpamAssassin works.  My
> users regularly get the stereotypical "FW: FW :FW :FW F:W:::FW::FW::WW READ
> THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" messages and they are *not* tagged.
> Block capital messages?  Not tagged.  Financial newsletters filled with words
> like "Investment" and "buy" and "call" are not tagged.  Steamy emails between
> lovers are not tagged.  Oddly enough, real estate agents send very
> spammy-looking emails and they are not tagged.  True opt-in mailing lists for
> marketting are not tagged.  How much better do you want to get?
>
> We receive about 5000-7500 spam email messages a day and when I was first
> setting this system up I went through the spamfile by hand looking for false
> positives so I could fine-tune the tests.  I no longer have to do so.  And on
> a list such as pptp-server, I can almost guarantee the false positives to be
> zero due to the non-newbie, non-sales nature of the list content.
>
> I suggested SpamAssassin specifically because of how it worked.  Hundreds of
> individual tests with scores based on a genetic algorithm and corpuses of
> spam and not spam to run the algorithm against.  Obviously I cannot (nor do I
> wish to) force the issue; I suggested something which works for me (and
> consequently for many, many others as well).
>
> Regards,
> Andrew
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